Hi anuragthn,

I dont want to suggest a certain provider since it depends on your personal needs. What I can say looking back to 8 years of blacklist experience is, that DigitalOcean is one of the worst providers. So basically every other provider is better when it comes to blacklisting. But I would not choose chinese or russian providers as well ;)

Looking to large providers that really care about abusive content and this way prevent users from being blacklisted, I would say Amazon/AWS does a great job.

Cheers,

Martin Litter
Darklist.de

Thanks for reaching back out, always happy to help :)

Most blacklists are irrelevant these days, only a handful actually end up being queried by recipient providers. I cannot accurately say which ones are queried by Microsoft, but I am inclined to believe that it is zero and that they only use their own internal list. This is my best guess from experience, given that I cannot know with absolute certainty.

I totally get that customers have the expectation of simply sending mail and it working, without paying something extra or anything like that. Especially when they can move from A to B and they see it working again. My perspective is that doing this is chasing around the remainders of a time that has passed. Temporary gains from moving around to different IP space.

When MS blocked a brand new IPv4 range that I received, having not received any spam from it, I began hopping around through IP space to find ranges they hadn’t blocked (at various providers). Soon after, those ranges would be blocked too. Inevitably, a few customers would set up email forwarders that would send spam to their service, causing the blocks to simply follow me around over time.

My response to this problem was to purchase a MailChannels subscription and set up cPanel to relay all mail through it. It was expensive but it worked great. It cost me all of my profits, but as I learned this is simply the way the game is played these days and whether or not I liked it, I either had to pay up or ask my customers to change their expectations.

Fast forward to today and I have my own rented /24 that I work hard to keep clean, and I’m still dealing with it (at least today I no longer manage it alone). Last night we had to rotate out an IP and fill out the MS removal form because one user had their password compromised and their account used to send a few spam, the JMRP form doesn’t work because they hit RIPE rate limits constantly. This is the life of an email provider in 2018. There is no rest, there is no easy way out. The easiest path is to spend money, the hard path is to spend a little less money but instead spend all of your time doing it (or hire help). The frustrating path is to move around constantly and wait for the problem to find you again elsewhere because of one email forwarder or a neighbor server.

I do wish there was an easy way out. A lot of advice out there exists about easy ways out, but I’ve found that they tend to come from people who are in very isolated situations. A single user who never forwards email and does not delegate email services to any significant number of customers is going to have an easier time with everything, for example. For you and I, just trying to get users on a shared server to consistently send to Hotmail, we will see that the old days are gone and the new ones are not so pleasant. We’ll survive, but it will cost us something.

I hope my insight proves valuable at the least :)

Jarland

Hey @snipperbytes , no I haven’t encountered any tools which provide delisting steps as well. I’ve used MXToolbox, but it only lists down blacklists. I’ve to research on how to remove from those blacklists and it becomes very hectic for me to delist manually since all these blacklists have their own complex processes. Could you please tell me which tool you use? A link would suffice. Thanks!